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  The Science Is In: God Is The Answer...

  by OUTLAW in

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  2. current

  the science is in: god is the answer.

  research shows kids raised with spirituality are happier and healthier in the vulnerable teen years.

  why arent we all signing up?.

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  Village Idiot

  LoveUniHateExams, "... and the Yazidi people have their own religion, too ..."

  And Zoroastrians as well.
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  Memorial attendance up or down on last year?

  by freddo in

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  as per the title.

  and was the one you attended at an early or late time of the evening.. any partakers?.

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  What I don't understand is why the Watchtower does not simply fake their numbers. It would not be beneath their dignity to do so and no one would catch them doing it.
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  Why only 7 or 8 members on the Governing Body?

  by Gilgamesh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now and then someone hears a rumor that the gb might go with 12 members instead of the 8 (or now 7) they currently have.

  the value of 12 is understandable, which might even drive the rumors every time they plan to add another 4 or 5 new persons to the gb helpers list.

  of course, a rumor that steals their thunder may also promote a delay, even if true.. i'm sure this quote from the watchtower was previously commented upon as a good explanation for the watch tower's best reason to leave the number at 7 or 8:.

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  @ FayeDunaway,

  "Gilgamesh...cuz I'm feeling lazy, can you tell me what is Ecclesiasticus? Im guessing it is apocrypha?"

  Yes, it is from the Apocrypha.

  My understanding is that it was written around 250 BC.
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  When did Christianity Separate from Judaism?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a subject of some importance, the view of the witnesses, likely inherited from franz's influence, seems to be that early christianity developed as a separate religion to the jews.. the view of most contemporary scholars is that the separation occurred slowly, and that influential early christians (e.g.

  such as paul, peter, john and james) still saw themselves as jews.. to those of us that are no longer christians (and, most ex-witnesses here, seem to gradually move to that position) this is not an important issue.. but to an organisation that claims it has "the truth," surely it should know the truth about its origins.

  yet the evidence is that the modern day religion of jehovah's witnesses, does not know the "truth" concerning the origins of early christianity.

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  Village Idiot

  The Watchtower, like all fundamentalist Christian religions, view this issue as arising from "Higher Criticism" of the Bible which contradicts their basic premise that the Bible is the literal and true word of God. Jehovah's Witnesses don't even know the truth about the origin of their own religion let alone Christianity.
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  Why only 7 or 8 members on the Governing Body?

  by Gilgamesh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now and then someone hears a rumor that the gb might go with 12 members instead of the 8 (or now 7) they currently have.

  the value of 12 is understandable, which might even drive the rumors every time they plan to add another 4 or 5 new persons to the gb helpers list.

  of course, a rumor that steals their thunder may also promote a delay, even if true.. i'm sure this quote from the watchtower was previously commented upon as a good explanation for the watch tower's best reason to leave the number at 7 or 8:.

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  Village Idiot

  Are all members of the Governing Body of the 'anointed'? A scarcity of qualified anointed members is probably the reason why they don't have more than 7 on the Governing Body.
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  Natural Selection in Religions

  by Victor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently developed an interest in examining the origins of religion.

  so what i've gathered so far is this.

  the human mind needs to create an explanation and meaning.

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  Village Idiot

  "Brain pain". I like that phrase, it's catchy.

  It must have happened at some time in our evolutionary development that our increased capacity to think left an uncomfortable void in our minds as respect to the outward world.

  I disagree with certain points like,

  "All other gods of other tribes are the false gods and the tribe's god is reason to commit genocide of other tribes"

  First, there were many religions in the past that accepted the idea of multiple gods even those of their enemies. Whenever there was a war the strongest god - hopefully theirs - would defeat the other nation's god.

  As for genocide, that was bound to occur regardless of religion or lack of religion. It's based on a totally different set of behavior. Any commands for genocide that "the god" gave were just projections of the human imagination which seeks to justify non religious behavior by creating divine decrees.
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  These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

  by Crazyguy in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

  to funny nice job....

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  Village Idiot

  Only watched half of the first video and a minute and a half of the second. Very poor taste. Of course I'm the one who tipped over their table sending crackers and wine to the floor so who am I to judge?
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  The Science Is In: God Is The Answer...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. social
  2. current

  the science is in: god is the answer.

  research shows kids raised with spirituality are happier and healthier in the vulnerable teen years.

  why arent we all signing up?.

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  Village Idiot

  It's part of our evolutionary heritage to live in close, tightly knit groups that rely on each other for survival. It is in villages and tribes that our psyches prosper. We, in the Western World, are an alienated society with very little or no community ties. Almost any well adjusted group could provide the sense of community that most of us crave for.

  It's a pity that the Watchtower and other poisonous religions take advantage of that inborn need to belong to something.

  
  
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  The 50 Ways to Be Disfellowshipped

  by Wild_Thing in

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  2. friends

  i was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?

  i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?

  a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.

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  Village Idiot

  Disfellowshipping for associating with any df'd person was common knowledge in the 1970s. But starting around 1980 the Watchtower started disfellowshipping for associating with disassociated persons. That is how Raymond Franz was disfellowshipped and they applied it retroactively.

  Also, not believing that the Watchtower is God's organization falls into the Apostasy category.
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  Oregon, Hillsboro Tribune, Article: Jehovah's Witness sex abuse case in feds' hands

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.pamplinmedia.com/ht/117-hillsboro-tribune-news/255785-125363-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case-in-feds-hands.

  lawsuit seeks $10.5 million from hillsboro church, watchtower society .

  attorneys for a 40-year-old woman and a 38-year-old man who say they were sexually abused nearly 30 years ago by a church elder in hillsboro want to have a lawsuit filed by the pair last fall placed back in state court jurisdiction.

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  Flipper, "...they've already admitted to it in court."

  I hope that information can be made available to other courts with similar lawsuits where the Watchtower lawyers might deny their existence. Do the attorneys in these cases have any cross communication? If not it would be good if they collaborate with each other.